This file contains archived live captions of the open meeting of the Federal Election Commission held on May 18, 2023. This file is not a transcript of the meeting, and it has not been reviewed for accuracy or approved by the Federal Election Commission. 

> We are live and recording and you may gavel when ready. 
 Good morning. The open meeting for this Thursday, 18 -- May 18 will come to order. There are no special motions today. We will be jumping in. First the item on the agenda is the final rule on 11 C.F.R. § 110.4(b)(1)(iii)  regarding Contributions in the Name of Another.  
 Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning. Before the document 23-11 minus a is a draft interim or IFR regarding the regulatory prohibition on knowingly helping or assisting any person in making contribution in the name of another. The 2018 order of the United States permission to strike it from the Code of Federal Regulations. The commission didn't appeal that order and accordingly the draft interim final rule would remove the affected prohibition and it brings comments on this to the regulation and in addition we received one comment to the agenda document and finally we have a few suggested edits to the document if I may. On page 3 of the document of the agenda document the paragraph beginning on line 13, we suggest striking the first sentence which runs from line 13 to early line 15 and then striking the last sentences starting with nor on page 18 through the remainder of the paragraph. That would leave that paragraph containing only the sentences that begin with moreover and see on lines 15 to 18. Thank you. We are available to answer any questions. 
 Thank you. Colleagues, any discussion? 
 Madam Chair. Thank you. I want to also thank in particular Commissioner Broussard who has been a valued and welcomed partner clearing the underbrush in this agency over the past two decades. Today's vote is a continuation of a joint bipartisan and I hope unanimous effort to accomplish two goals. First this interim final rule follows what is now a path and the commission is taking the orders of federal court seriously and reasonable minds can differ on this complex and difficult area of the law but when a court instructs a federal agency to do something, compliance isn't optional and there are many options under the law and motions to reconsider and efforts to modify a judicial remedy and of course appeal. In some cases an agency may engage in good faith in appellate efforts to clarify the law across circuits with an eye toward eventual Supreme Court review. Simply ignoring the clear command of federal court isn't one of the options. Second, the regulations remained littered with esoteric, out of date and misleading interims and the provision at issue today has been unenforceable for five years and continuing to publish it and give the public the impression that it remains enforced is misleading good people trying to do the right thing. It is time the formal guidance reflects the law as it actually is. My thanks again to Commissioner Broussard and the office of General  Council and in appropriate time I would be privileged to make an appropriate motion. 
 Any motions? 
 Madam Chair, thank you. I moved the adoption of agenda document 23-11 minus a subject to the revisions recommended by the office of General Counsel. 
 All those in favor? 
 Aye. 
 The motion  passes unanimously with Commissioner Weintraub unavoidably absent and [ Indiscernible ] pursuant to their active [ Indiscernible ]. The second item on the agenda are management and administrative matters. Madam acting staff director either any matters that need to be discussed today? 
 There are no such matters, Madam Chair. 
 That concludes our open agenda today. Thank you all. This meeting is adjourned. Standby. 
 The meeting is now live. 
 We are live, Madam Chair. 
 Good morning. This special session of the Federal Election Commission will please come to order. I would like to welcome everyone to the hearing on proposed changes to regulations regarding the use of campaign funds for candidate compensation in today's hearing will take place in a hybrid and in person in virtual format and we are live right now on the YouTube channel. I am the chair of the commission this year and sitting beside me are commissioners Broussard, Dickerson and Allen Weintraub in our Vice Chairman is unable to be here and also is the acting General Counsel Lisa Stephenson and the staff director for management and administration. I would like to thank the commissioners,  Commissioner Broussard and Commissioner Dickerson have resurrected our  [ Indiscernible ] and particularly to Commissioner Broussard to advance this initiative and think  the office of General Council policy team and the operations and technology and commission secretary and the divisions for managing the logistics making today happen and your hard work and diligence are appreciated and don't go unnoticed. This hearing follows the petition for rulemaking submitted by a former candidate for Congress in March 2021 and running for office often requires a full-time effort and many people can't afford to have a job to pay for additional childcare in order to do so. For those without substantial wealth running for office is a dream and not a reality and I am excited to work to find ways to make running for office more accessible. Today we are talking about proposed rules they published in the Federal Register on December 12 of 2022 and these proposed rules aim to find practical and responsible solutions for candidates to use campaign funds to support themselves and families and in response to this notice for reposed rulemaking we have received comments from groups and labor unions and nonprofits, political committees and recent candidates for federal office. We learned so much from comments and we are glad many of you have decide to join us for this hearing. I would like to invite our fellow commissioners to provide opening remark. Good morning this open meeting will now come to order. There are no special motions -- [ Event concluded ]